George Bush - Good Or Bad?

[Saruman]

So what your saying is we shouldn't study history because we weren't there?

Umm..no, I didn't say that. :roll:

People know how to study and find facts.

"facts" are hard to come by in this day and age.

We have politicians twisting their own opinions until they sound "reasonable" enough for the populous to believe as "fact."

Age is just a number.

Thats a pretty vague statement, elaborate for me please.

If you feel like debating, debate, but don't just say "I won't debate with you, your too young, i dont care what you say"

Again, your saying things that are not true, I didn't say that, however if you want to debate, then lets go...

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Name one thing that has benefitted the American people since Obama has been in office.

He was the commander in chief of those military officers who gave the orders to execute civilians showcased during the revealing from wikileaks.

He was the commander in chief during this massive oil disaster occurring in the gulf.

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Does he know something alot of the american populous doesn't?

Don't stare too "hard" people :lol:

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By the Democrats own definition as established in Congress in 2008.

Obama Not a Natural Born Citizen

The Senate defined “natural born Citizen” in 2008, and Obama didn’t qualify

But again, rules and laws don't apply to the politicians - they break them at will.

Based on this very definitive information, I am wondering when the hearings to remove him from office will begin?

DEMOCRAT SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY AND OTHERS “RESOLVED” THAT IT TOOK TWO CITIZEN PARENTS TO BE A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”

(May 17, 2010) — The simple truth in evidence is Obama’s own declaration that he was born of a British father and is therefore not a “natural born Citizen.”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/17/ ... t-qualify/

The article explains in pretty clear detail the issues with "Natural Born" versus "Native born."

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Name one thing that has benefitted the American people since Bush Junior has been in office up until his 2009 departure.

Yes, We know bush went golfing after 9/11...

Waited to finish the book to the kiddo's before hopping on airforce one.

When comparing to Bush junior, they both have their faults, but we live in the NOW, not the past.

You have the ability to remember, however if your memories are bigger than your dreams, there is something wrong.

😎

 

[Justin]

Sorry, I don't feel like reading my broken up post because I am lazy, but that whole post is just what I say, thank you :lol:

 

[Cam]

B is for Bush which equals Bad.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Based on....

 

[cityStatic]

Based on....

No Child Left Behind
Tax "Cuts"
Kyoto Protocol
Domestic Policies
Accusing Democrats of wanting to make Social Security a federal program
War in Iraq
Be more unpopular than Lyndon Johnson
Not actually win election

As for Bush Sr., his sperm cell came to the egg cell and formed a zygote, which later became an embryo, which later became a fetus, which later became the Fourty-Third President of the United States.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I believe it is called tax cuts without the quotes though.

 

[Logan18]

B is for Bush which equals Bad.

Or Bull **** :lol:

Name one thing that has benefitted the American people since Obama has been in office.

He isn't George Bush. On the serious side, health care.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

He said benefited 😉
:great:

 

[Saruman]

I don't appreciate some of the childish responses to my questions, unless, that is, you are a child.

If your not going to respond intellectually, then you probably shouldn't even respond at all, I'm sure our readers would want to read well thought out replies, I know I sure do.

As to health care...

Do you, Logan, even pay for your own?

Obama isn't even on one of the health plans he signed into law, he's still using his original...

Now I want to ask them if we can have access to their health care plan at the price we will pay for the gov't plan. :roll:

The whole debacle was a political gamble.

Besides raising co-payments and other various costs, democrats find themselves in big trouble for reelection due to the new HC.
In particular, the warnings about Medicare could become a major political liability for Democratic lawmakers in the midterm elections.
Seniors are more likely to vote than younger people and polls show they(seniors) are highly skeptical of the law.

Finally, can you name for me just ONE program operated by the federal government that has run on or under budget? Social Security = broke and bankrupt! Medicare = being CUT to pay for this and is already broke! Every other initiative operates at a deficit! People who applaud this have no idea what they're about to get in the future.

 

[Logan18]

Logan is only 15, so I wouldn't even bother trying to educate him in politics, that is why he is still in school, :lol:

First off, just because my profile on here says I'm 15 doesn't mean I am (even though I am). Second off, I'm pretty sure I'm not in school only to learn about politics.

Also, how has Obama screwed the economy over?

 

[Saruman]

So you were, around 7-14 during Bushs' presidency then, :lol:

Also, how has Obama screwed the economy over?

Didn't you even read my latest post right above yours? :roll:

You want more reasons...so be it!

Besides no one able to ever find a legal birth certificate on this goon(Obama)...There are those that could see through the lies and deceptions before this clown ever showed his pearly white teeth during his inauguration.

An international banking cartel that got a foothold in 1913, enslaved us in 1933, and took us off gold/silver in, what... '72?

That is how the U.S. has begun its dismantling IMO.

If the presidents even know what was going on, they probably are hard pressed to do anything about it.. the system is compromised to such an extent that any old 'Kennedy' can't just come in and try to "change" things...

It all started with President Clinton and his philandering ways. Oh that NAFTA and those jobs leaving for other countries. And the push for Fannie and Freddie to make riskier loans.

Oh wait you were looking for me to say, it was Bush's fault.

Right, how could I forget... :roll:

The presidents are just the puppets to take the blame from the powers that be.

 

[Logan18]

So you were, around 7-14 during Bushs' presidency then, :lol:

Right. 😛

The presidents are just the puppets to take the blame from the powers that be.

That's why you agree that Obama has screwed the economy over. :lol:

I'm pretty much done with this conversation. You have a point, Saruman.

 

[Justin]

Why are we talking about Obama here? This has absolutely zero to do with Obama. Yes, everyone hates him, woo! Yay, good job on voting him in then.

ANYWAY.

Just stay on topic.

 

[MissTake]

All I know is that G Dubya Bush didn't have a very high rating in the UK.

Personally I thought he was a weird, dangerous man with one finger on the button.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Why are we talking about Obama here?

Because Obama is the President right after Bush :great:

 

[Logan18]

Why are we talking about Obama here?

Because Obama is the President right after Bush :great:

This was about George Bush being good or bad explaining why. Not whether Obama is or isn't.

 

[Saruman]

Why are we talking about Obama here? This has absolutely zero to do with Obama. Yes, everyone hates him, woo! Yay, good job on voting him in then.

ANYWAY.

Just stay on topic.

Alot of you are VERY ameturish, its laughable discussing these things with some of you, where you contribute zero to the discussion and in turn, return with responses totally irrelevant to the discussion on hand.

@ The Hat Tipper, if you disagree with something I say, no biggie, just come back with your own reasoning, instead of acting like a child.

What else can be said about George Bush then?

We live in the present whether you want to believe that or not, you do.

@ Logan, my point is, ALL presidents have been corrupt or became corrupt during their presidency.

Obama, Bush, all of them, none of them are perfect. 😎

 

[Justin]

Why are we talking about Obama here? This has absolutely zero to do with Obama. Yes, everyone hates him, woo! Yay, good job on voting him in then.

ANYWAY.

Just stay on topic.

Alot of you are VERY ameturish, its laughable discussing these things with some of you, where you contribute zero to the discussion and in turn, return with responses totally irrelevant to the discussion on hand.

@ The Hat Tipper, if you disagree with something I say, no biggie, just come back with your own reasoning, instead of acting like a child.

What else can be said about George Bush then?

We live in the present whether you want to believe that or not, you do.

@ Logan, my point is, ALL presidents have been corrupt or became corrupt during their presidency.

Obama, Bush, all of them, none of them are perfect. 😎

Thanks, i'll be sure to listen to you next time, i forgot who was in charge over what I post 😉

This is probably my last bit here because it is kinda funny seeing some of the posts here, but I PERSONALLY deam him as a bad pres. because: vacations, vacations, vacations, doing nothing during the 9/11 attack until after reading a kids book, he was too corrupt and had two faces. Thats me. Thanks.
see ya 😛

 

[cityStatic]

I believe it is called tax cuts without the quotes though.

Only the richest 30% of America recieved the cuts.

 

[el canadiano]

Health care is a right in most countries. Obama won't be able to get rid of guys like AIG (but to be fair, if they failed that much in 2008, they deserve to). However, he can make something as simple as a basic checkup affordable to all Americans.

As for his bailout money, you should really slap the faces of all the executives who had to receive bailout money for the mistakes they made. Seems to me this is more prejudice than anything. Mind you, the majority of world leaders appreciate Obama's efforts rather than condemn them and think more highly of him than Bush.