Is murder justified in wartime?

The Hat Tipper said:
It is. War cannot be stopped with us. Nor can killing or murdering.
That pretty much sums up the whole debate.

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Cosmic said:
IS WWII justified? NO. cos it was INVADING war began by German and Japan. It could be justified till they entered German territories but after then its invading WAR too. Is Japan part justified? it could be justified till Hirosimo and Nagasaki where were murdered 200thousand civilians by US army
Hitler was a very, very evil man. As for the nuclear bombing, people on this forum generally know nothing about that. It was a measure, ordered by President Truman pretty much single handedly, to save hundreds of thousands of Americans from dying. It directly ended the war by scaring the Japanese enough to surrender. Otherwise it would have been a several year long invasion of Japan. the Japanese NEVER give up. There would have eventually been an Urban warfare situation which would have killed MUCH more Japanese civilians than two nukes.

Is US Civil war Justified? Maybe. Cos it was began by people that want to save their slaves. But its also one kind of Invade. When North invaded South.
Take a seat, 'cuz I have a story to tell you. The Civil war was caused by states rights issues where the southern states felt they were being oppressed. As soon as Abraham Lincoln became a President Elect, the south succeeded from the Union as they felt that Abraham Lincoln was for the abolishion of slavery. The civil war was not just about slavery, but about states rights. Slavery was a big issue, but it wasn't the whole story.

Is Afqan war justified? Maybe. It was saving Afqan people form Talibs. BUT its now INVADED by US.
why do you always all caps "INVADED"? There are sometimes reasons for invading things.

@Grievous: amen.
tl;dr I agree with Cosmic.

The Japanese had armed themselves. They were arming children. Which is better for you, invade Japan and kill every last civilian-soldier, or just nuke two cities, spare the rest, and let it become a country again?

So let's just let EVERY state succeed and see how wonderful the peace is! No.

Also I'm an Imperialist.
 
lordelian said:
You say War is justified? Maybe some of them for example US Revolution and defending yourself BUT if you defend yourself then someone declare war on you and attack you to invade, to kill or for some other reason and so this war isnt justified either.
IS WWII justified? NO. cos it was INVADING war began by German and Japan. It could be justified till they entered German territories but after then its invading WAR too. Is Japan part justified? it could be justified till Hirosimo and Nagasaki where were murdered 200thousand civilians by US army.
Is US Civil war Justified? Maybe. Cos it was began by people that want to save their slaves. But its also one kind of Invade. When North invaded South.
Is Afqan war justified? Maybe. It was saving Afqan people form Talibs. BUT its now INVADED by US.
Is Iraq War justified? NO. ITs just invade war and there were killed more people than during Saddam time.
IS Napaleon, Alexander the Great, Ceasar wars justified? NEVER. Cos all of it was invading wars.

P.S. Im not christian, not muslim, not jew, not any other religion. I just belive that someone created us but dont belive in any religion.
@WWII - Oh, sure. Let millions of Jews, gays, etc. die. That's justified.
 
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