Isis?

[Cierra]

Do you feel like Isis is a threat to your country? What is your country doing about Isis?

 

[jnugget]

i dont think they are a threat to one specific country but to the entire world with the ideas they sling around more people are joining them each day

something needs to be done about this kind of evil

 

[+Justice]

Sometimes things aren't what it appears to be...

Do you believe the media and your government?

Do you believe that ISIS could be something else or created on purpose, or for a reason that is hidden and not shown?


Some people believe this:

USA's CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) created and funded Al-Qaeda / Taliban...

Israel's Mossad (Israel's Secret Intelligence Service) created and funded ISIS...

CIA = Al-Qaeda + Israel = ISIS


Has some truth to it, eh?

 

[froggyboy604]

I think the ideas ISIS spread online and in the news and offline media can be a threat to any country since there are a lot of unstable mentally ill people who would harm others thinking they are working for ISIS, or some other violent group instead of finding help to deal with their mental problems in a non-violent manner.

 

[Graffiti]

ISIS is only a major threat to the Middle East I belive, as they plan to create an Islamic State.

It's only a minor threat to the other parts of the world.

 

[+Justice]

Aren't ISIS doing the same thing that other countries have done in the past?

I say, if they win the war in the middle east then let them carve out their own little chunk of land so they can live in their own little world as they see fit...

And if that's not enough for them and they want more and to take over more then just fireball them all?

To ISIS It's a war, to the West they're "terrorists"...

War is terrorism and war is anything but new to the Human kind...

 

[Graffiti]

Lol, exactly. What ISIS is trying to do is no different from what the Israelis did to the Palestinians, when they occupied their land back in 1948, and what they are continuing to do, decades up until now.

 

[+Justice]

Smoke and mirrors...

 

[Gamer Outpost]

ISIS is an evil terrorist group that the U.S. and its Western allies need to stop.

Comparing a Muslim Extremist group to Israel (America's biggest ally in the Middle East) is flat out dumb. Israel is fighting to defend the land it rightfully owns and ISIS is slaughtering hundreds of innocent people in the name of Allah/Islam.

 

[Graffiti]

Lol dude, how can you say that? The Palestinians have just as much right to be on the land as the Israelis, who are taking their land bit by bit, ever since 1948. That's a bit off topic though, I am completely against what ISIS is doing. They aren't muslim but murderers.

 

[Scarface]

Lol dude, how can you say that? The Palestinians have just as much to be on the land as the Israelis, who are taking their land bit by bit, ever since 1948. That's a bit off topic though, I am completely against what ISIS is doing. They aren't muslim but murderers.

I agree 100% with you, some people follow media with eyes closed, all these terrorists groups are made by those who claims are against it and ISIS IS NO DIFFERENT. I'm totally against terrorist but to call israel fighting for own land is the dumbest thing i heard gamer outpost. Please refer to history Israel had no land Palastine gave them land and Israel are now treating it as their own and killing inocents and removing them from their own land.

 

[Graffiti]

- It's all rubbish to be honest, these Israeli Zionists keep talking about a land that was "promised" to them over a 1000 years ago. Even a majority of the Jews themselves despised them. The American media is run by Zionist Jews, so obviously they are gonna make the Zionist Israelis look like the good guys/saviors/heroes.

(I just had to say this, because It irritates me when people say those things, no disrespect to their opinions)

- ISIS, and any extremist group such as Taliban, Al Qaeda, should be exterminated from the face of earth. They are giving a bad name to a peaceful religion. That so-called "Islamic State" is no different from Hitler and his Nazi army.

 

[+Justice]

What's the difference from the USA bombing a city/town/village/hospital/school/home and killing innocent women and children and ISIS or any other "terrorist" group bombing a building and killing innocent women and children?

Both acts are unjust and both are wrong, yet people only see one as bad/evil/enemy/wrong...

People like to forget that the USA kills the most humans as well as incarcerate more of their own citizens than any other country or group...

 

[Rebel]

What's the difference from the USA bombing a city/town/village/hospital/school/home and killing innocent women and children and ISIS or any other "terrorist" group bombing a building and killing innocent women and children?

The difference is that the US does not bomb a city/town/village/hospital/school/home in the first place. The US follows, as does most of the civilized world, the Geneva Conventions and the articles within it. Secondly we follow the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC). So such targets as you erroneously tried to claim America targets cannot and have not been targeted due to these laws. Causalities do happen in war. Ever hear the term "war is hell"? That's not just some story book quote.

The difference is ISIS indiscriminately kills without any regard for humanity or rights. They kill, rape, and steal simply because they can. They follow no laws and they hide among civilians to blend in. There's really no way to compare ISIS and America in any form at all. Not sober anyways.

People like to forget that the USA kills the most humans as well as incarcerate more of their own citizens than any other country or group...

People like to forget a lot of things but people like you are the ones who like to never research in the first place and promote your own narrative on events. If you had researched the topic you wouldn't be saying such nonsensical things at all. Of course people are going to forget something that you made up...propaganda wasn't interesting to be remembered in past wars and it certainly isn't interesting enough to be remembered in this one either. Only facts rule at the end of the day.

 

[Atrox]

They need to be stopped, they're killing aid workers and reporters that were not even harmed. Even worse, they're beheading them. Also, we can't just allow them to control such a large piece of land down in the ME. That is where a lot of oil comes from. It will not be long until ground troops are sent in, American, British and a few other European forces should be able to wipe ISIS. They're a group of suicidal, mortar loving, gun spraying maniacs. We have highly trained troops with a lot of technology.

 

[Roxter]

Kinda off topic, but thought I'd add:
One of those killed by ISIS (Peter Kassig) is from my state and one of my teachers knew him quite well. In fact, I think someone with that last name went to my school according to that teacher.

We need to stop them. How to stop them, I wouldn't be sure about, but I don't agree with how Obama is handling it right now.

 

[Gamer Outpost]

Kinda off topic, but thought I'd add:
One of those killed by ISIS (Peter Kassig) is from my state and one of my teachers knew him quite well. In fact, I think someone with that last name went to my school according to that teacher.

We need to stop them. How to stop them, I wouldn't be sure about, but I don't agree with how Obama is handling it right now.

I agree. The only way we can stop them is to be quick, thorough, and decisive in our military action. Obama is the complete opposite.

Other nations should do their best to help out too though (Canada, Britain, France, etc.), as we are not the only ones who ISIS is targeting.

Radical Islam is a disease that has spread so much that it will be very difficult to contain (just like communism during the Cold War).

I have no doubt in my mind that if G.W. or Reagan were president today ISIS would be in a lot more trouble. We have millions of soldiers who signed up to fight for their country. Let them do their job against ISIS. We need a specific strategy.

 

[jnugget]

Kinda off topic, but thought I'd add:
One of those killed by ISIS (Peter Kassig) is from my state and one of my teachers knew him quite well. In fact, I think someone with that last name went to my school according to that teacher.

We need to stop them. How to stop them, I wouldn't be sure about, but I don't agree with how Obama is handling it right now.

I agree. The only way we can stop them is to be quick, thorough, and decisive in our military action. Obama is the complete opposite.

Other nations should do their best to help out too though (Canada, Britain, France, etc.), as we are not the only ones who ISIS is targeting.

Radical Islam is a disease that has spread so much that it will be very difficult to contain (just like communism during the Cold War).

I have no doubt in my mind that if G.W. or Reagan were president today ISIS would be in a lot more trouble. We have millions of soldiers who signed up to fight for their country. Let them do their job against ISIS. We need a specific strategy.

i agree but the fact they are killing innocents just to gain power is worrying and sending in the troops will create more innocent people dying

 

[Gamer Outpost]

Kinda off topic, but thought I'd add:
One of those killed by ISIS (Peter Kassig) is from my state and one of my teachers knew him quite well. In fact, I think someone with that last name went to my school according to that teacher.

We need to stop them. How to stop them, I wouldn't be sure about, but I don't agree with how Obama is handling it right now.

I agree. The only way we can stop them is to be quick, thorough, and decisive in our military action. Obama is the complete opposite.

Other nations should do their best to help out too though (Canada, Britain, France, etc.), as we are not the only ones who ISIS is targeting.

Radical Islam is a disease that has spread so much that it will be very difficult to contain (just like communism during the Cold War).

I have no doubt in my mind that if G.W. or Reagan were president today ISIS would be in a lot more trouble. We have millions of soldiers who signed up to fight for their country. Let them do their job against ISIS. We need a specific strategy.

i agree but the fact they are killing innocents just to gain power is worrying and sending in the troops will create more innocent people dying

Send in the troops and there may be some civilian casualties. Don't send in the troops and radical Islam spreads further, which would put millions of innocent people at risk. Airstrikes just don't cut it. The problem is a lot deeper than just a few military and governmental bases/buildings.

America tends to do a lot more good than wrong when it comes to military action. Look at WWI and WWII for evidence of that. The rest of the world looks to the U.S. when stuff like this happens. I think its obvious that our current leadership doesn't warrant the respect that former American leaders have (think Roosevelt and Eisenhower during WWII, Kennedy and Reagan during the Cold War) in the past.

A change in scenery in 2016 in the States would do well for the entire world. News flash people: Hillary Clinton would simply reinforce the vast majority of BHO's policies. Been there done that.

 

[+Justice]

What's the difference from the USA bombing a city/town/village/hospital/school/home and killing innocent women and children and ISIS or any other "terrorist" group bombing a building and killing innocent women and children?

The difference is that the US does not bomb a city/town/village/hospital/school/home in the first place.
so, when the united states attacked iraq unprovoked, cities weren't bombed? innocent women and children destroyed? i think you're mistaken that the united states don't bomb the innocent...

The US follows, as does most of the civilized world, the Geneva Conventions and the articles within it.
that's a complete lie right there...

Secondly we follow the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC).
also, proved wrong...

So such targets as you erroneously tried to claim America targets cannot and have not been targeted due to these laws.
if you really believe in that then you're truly delusional... the fact is that the united states does attack others and kill innocent women and children... iraq is total proof of that fact...

Causalities do happen in war.
okay, and? same thing could be said about the casualties from isis, after-all, it's a war over there, right?

Ever hear the term "war is hell"?
sure, so why are you so angry about isis killing in their war?

That's not just some story book quote.
i'm sure hell is much worse than war...

The difference is ISIS indiscriminately kills without any regard for humanity or rights.
so, let me get this straight, when the "good guys" kill, it's justified, but when people we don't agree with and dislike, it's terror and injustice? can't be so hypocritical and one sided now can we? isis is at war over there and what you say, war is hell and there are going to be people killed in wars...

They kill, rape, and steal simply because they can.
american military personnel did the same thing in iraq...

They follow no laws and they hide among civilians to blend in.
actually, isis does have their own law and order...

There's really no way to compare ISIS and America in any form at all. Not sober anyways.
why not? because the truth hurts and inconvenient?

People like to forget that the USA kills the most humans as well as incarcerate more of their own citizens than any other country or group...

People like to forget a lot of things but people like you are the ones who like to never research in the first place and promote your own narrative on events.
umm, it's the facts that i'm speaking... i'm sorry that the truth goes against you...

If you had researched the topic you wouldn't be saying such nonsensical things at all.
i'm very well knowledgeable and it seems to me that you cannot prove what i say to be wrong because you can't... everything i've said is fact...

Of course people are going to forget something that you made up
what's made up? you have not yet proven anything i've said to be false, you're just telling me that i'm wrong with out bringing forth facts to back up your claims and to disprove what i say, instead you try to make me out to be someone that's making things up, in which you're still not proving me wrong nor bringing forth any facts to do so... that's how a debate works my good chum...

...propaganda wasn't interesting to be remembered in past wars and it certainly isn't interesting enough to be remembered in this one either. Only facts rule at the end of the day.
i'm not spreading any propaganda, only the truth... truth is that america has killed more humans on this earth than any muslim/arab country/group...

let me make myself clear...

i do not support terrorists...
i do not support terrorism...
i do not support hate...
i do not support murder...
i do not support evil...
i do not support violence...
i do not support injustice...