Lack of IPB Forums

Absolutely. Meeting other webmasters and doing post exchanges, graphics etc. is very helpful. I have vBulletin, I've paid for it. I have money to spend on my site, but I still choose to do some of my promotion here.
 
The amount of energy you put into advertising here and building a reputation, versus splashing a few hundred out on Google Adwords... I'd honestly rather go with Google Adwords and spend that energy posting around on my own community. Then again, my sort of forum does not sell well to a community like FP. Not many people here like writing, or so I've found.

Post exchanges - far from ideal. The people doing them largely don't write, and so can't contribute much to my main section.

Webmaster chat? No offense to Fowler and Fergal, but TAZ does that much better.

The only reason I came back was that I finally have an active section that might appeal to people here - an art and graphics section. Then again, it's not my primary section so I don't worry about it so much. It's just there to entice my writing members to stick around a bit more.
 
I could go for adwords but I don't think it worth the money. I actually enjoy posting at FP, posting blog comments and trying things to improve SEO. It's a hobby for me at least.

Post exchanges work for me. 🙂 And I agree, most here aren't very experienced webmasters so I would go to AdminAddict or The Admin Zone to discuss webmaster stuff.
 
keithsigsports said:
Did someone really try to use IPBFree as a substitute for IPB?

I have. It was just to see what the software was like and it was when I was first starting out as a forum owner. I had absolutely no clue what I was doing back then as far as looking for software and stuff like that. I hardly did my "homework" either. i just went to whatever host htat I thought looked good, signed up a forum with them, and the rest is history.
 
Its the "idea" there are not many of them but to be honest most big sites I seen which are a good amount are most of the time on VB. Don't know why, its been longer around and lots of people know about it from the looks of some big forums on it.
 
DarkRaven said:
If this was 2008, I'd say yeah, ok sure... But we're now in 2010, and vBulletin has gone completely and utterly downhill. vB 4.0.x wasn't even a full code change. phpBB hasn't changed much since '08 either, whereas MyBB and SMF both have. I really don't see what you are on about. Until XenoForo becomes available for public use, IPB has virtually no competition in the paid software market.

^this. I remember when Kier Darby was talking about how vBulletin 4/4.1/4.2, etc. will gradually remove all of vBulletin 3's code, but Internet Brands now only wants to get vBulletin 5 out in 2011. How much vB3 code will be in it?
 
2011? What on earth? They are just trying to milk people for the subscription cost. You only get a very low discount for a license for each new series, so that's what they are on with there.

I know it is commercial software, but geez...
 
Its due to the money factor. People are likely to invest their money in vbulletin.
 
thalada said:
Its due to the money factor. People are likely to invest their money in vbulletin.

But still, is a 200% increase in anything realistic? Imagine paying $20 all of a sudden (just assume American Dollars) for a Big Mac meal, or $100 for the last Halo/Mario/Whatnot game. Inflation shouldn't rise that quickly, and to be fair, that's why a lot of vBulletin customers have been converting to IPB, primarily because converting was cheaper than upgrading to vBulletin 4. Then when Xenforo comes, I can at least guarantee more people will go that way as well. You basically can't compete if your pricing is through the roof compared to the others.
 
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