Osama Bin Laden is dead!

[Cam]

Firstly I've moved this thread to debate because no doubt it is a very strong subject and many will have their opinions on the matter as they have already.

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My opinion,

I'm sceptical, the whole thing smells bad to me, while I totally and whole heartedly agree this man was behind bad things, I'm not sure that it is lawful for a government to go in and murder a human being. I feel that they should have captured this man and put him on trial , the same as they did with Saddam Hussain.

So far we only have the word of the US government that this is indeed fact...there is no independent evidence from any other outside source, the dead body, the DNA, the burial at sea?

The photograph being issued as proof by The Daily Mail has already been dismissed as a forgery and a Photoshop fake.

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I personally feel that this will run as a conspiracy theory for years to come?

My first thought was that it was strange that Barrack Obama has now gone from zero to hero overnight, very strange that the timing of this report may very well save him for re-election.

I also believe that not only is this not the end of Al Qaeda it may very well fuel the terrorism, there was not just the one man behind all these atrocities and as of now those others will be seeking revenge, we should all be vigilant.

Vary rarely am I a sceptical person, I'm almost always optimistic, never pessimistic but something just isn't sitting right with me? If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

Yeah, I was talking to my parents about it, and I told them that they will have another United States government conspiracy theory being spread around in no time. It seems fishy to me. I am an American, and I somewhat have trouble trusting my own government. Barack Obama wasn't going to get a second term (little support), now since Osama Bin Laden is supposedly dead, people like Barack Obama again. It just sounds like the perfect conspiracy theory, it's a win-win for everybody. 9/11 victims find peace in their hearts and feel that justice has been made, Barack Obama becomes popular again and gets the second term, and Osama Bin Laden probably won't even need to hide anymore (if he is still alive) because everyone would think he is dead, so it couldn't be him. I know I am just speculating, but they gave very little details about his death, so it's hard to believe.

 

[death180]

They gave very little details of the mission because it was a covert operation they can't just spill out the details to the public.

 

[D]

He seems to be alive and posting on my forum :S 😛

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Eh, believe it if you want. Seems more of an attempt for everyone to go "America F*CK YEAH!" than anything else but it may be the real deal. Good for the states? Hell Yeah probably. Worth all the people that have died? Hell no, we've got other psychopaths to deal with that collectively are worse.

I completely agree. Osama is just this enemy that the government has made us all hate. It's a very Orwellian thing, really.

I also agree with MissTake. They should have captured him and put him on trial. I suppose we don't know the details of this operation, though, so there very well could have been a firefight.

Who knows? All I know is that it wasn't worth ten years, two wars, trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives to kill one person.

 

[Justin]

This is in debates?

I am so glad he is dead you don't even know. I was so happy last night.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

In any case, let's just get the hell out of Afghanistan now.

 

[Gimgak]

They gave very little details of the mission because it was a covert operation they can't just spill out the details to the public.

Which is the biggest problem with our government.

 

[Sayf Udeen]

Of course they killed him, he has no right to a fair trial? Even the most clearly guilty in the USA have that right at their disposal...

Next time they'll just go arrest him in the middle of a firefight, then.

For the nation with the 'best military intelligence' in the world, the US haven't been too good at showing it.
There was likely more ample opportunity to put him on trial than we have been told.

Who knows? All I know is that it wasn't worth ten years, two wars, trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives to kill one person.

THIS SO MUCH!
Though, Iraq was another war with another excuse - but if we're including Iraq, then make that millions of lives, not thousands.

In any case, let's just get the hell out of Afghanistan now.

We can wish all we want, but we all know that's not going to happen.

 

[Logan18]

We gave him his burial.

To clear things up, Osama fired shots at the Americans. Therefore, we shot him instead of capturing him.

 

[Hobbies230]

Of course they killed him, he has no right to a fair trial? Even the most clearly guilty in the USA have that right at their disposal...

Next time they'll just go arrest him in the middle of a firefight, then.

For the nation with the 'best military intelligence' in the world, the US haven't been too good at showing it.
There was likely more ample opportunity to put him on trial than we have been told.

Based on what, exactly? Even if we do have the supposed best military intelligence it doesn't make the task of finding and taking down a notorious terrorist group's leader easy. Of course the public hasn't been told about every single detail of our government's search for Osama Bin Laden, that stuff is classified for a reason, but you act as if we could have at any time we wanted just walked up to the man and taken him into custody.

 

[Mik.]

I heard he got thrown in the sea.

 

[GamingOn]

Just wrote a blog post about this 🙂 😀 Glad he's dead. 😀 I wonder if he went to HELL. 😀

 

[Mik.]

Ahah GamingOn, I hope he did too.

 

[SheepishWolf]

I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

 

[GamingOn]

Good job Anathema but we killed one he killed hundreds with his actions. Well we killed more then one but we still killed him he killed MORE. 😀 So normally I am on your side he should of been brought-en to jail so we could deal with him in the states but he would of been a lifer anyhow and people hate terrorists so he could of been in big trouble in jail! 😀 Either way glad hes no longer terrorizing the world. 😀

 

[dan213]

I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

Disagree 110%

For one, he was involved in a firefight which means he exchanged fire with the special forces putting them in harms way. The USA special forces also killed a wanted man that killed hundreds of thousands of people, wiping him off the map is no where near "the same". The wanted poster also said "Dead or Alive" which means exactly what it states.

 

[death180]

For the record everyone, bin Laden would have been taken to Saudi Arabia for a trial, once there, he would have been set free and we would have had to hunt him down and do it ALL over again.

 

[Nathan]

I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

Disagree 110%

For one, he was involved in a firefight which means he exchanged fire with the special forces putting them in harms way. The USA special forces also killed a wanted man that killed hundreds of thousands of people, wiping him off the map is no where near "the same". The wanted poster also said "Dead or Alive" which means exactly what it states.

Hundreds and thousands? Where do you get your facts from? It's thousands.

 

[dan213]

I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

Disagree 110%

For one, he was involved in a firefight which means he exchanged fire with the special forces putting them in harms way. The USA special forces also killed a wanted man that killed hundreds of thousands of people, wiping him off the map is no where near "the same". The wanted poster also said "Dead or Alive" which means exactly what it states.

Hundreds and thousands? Where do you get your facts from? It's thousands.

Yup, your right I made an error in numbers. I now believe that he is no where near as much of a monster because he only killed thousands of innocent people rather than hundreds of thousands. Gee, how cruel to kill such a man that only killed a few thousand people that were completely innocent! :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Nathan]

I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

Disagree 110%

For one, he was involved in a firefight which means he exchanged fire with the special forces putting them in harms way. The USA special forces also killed a wanted man that killed hundreds of thousands of people, wiping him off the map is no where near "the same". The wanted poster also said "Dead or Alive" which means exactly what it states.

Hundreds and thousands? Where do you get your facts from? It's thousands.

Yup, your right I made an error in numbers. I now believe that he is no where near as much of a monster because he only killed thousands of innocent people rather than hundreds of thousands. Gee, how cruel to kill such a man that only killed a few thousand people that were completely innocent! :rofl: :rofl:

No need to be a smartass, because obviously your not if you can't even get your numbers right. I never said he wasn't a monster or whatever I just corrected you for giving out false info, now stop being a little kid, grow up and don't be a smartass because you fail :roll: