Osama Bin Laden is dead!

But guys you gotta think about it like this.

While the death did make Obama go from zero to hero in one night, if it's not true and people find out, Obama will go from hero to zero to lowlife in an hour, so it's a big risk.
 
It's a huge risk, and I believe Obama is desperate enough to try it.

I also noticed Osama was shot in the face. Couldn't that have been used to maim the face just beyond the point of recognition where any Middle Eastern with a gray beard could have looked like Osama?
 
Yes, it's a risk but I also believe that desperate times call for desperate measures. I still believe he is dead but what a neat coincidence for them to release all this information now with election coming up.

There are so many gaping holes (like always?) that should be mentioned, like the ones I brought up in a couple posts up. I also never heard of a burial the same day someone dies, especially someone of such interest. There were stories that he was killed a few days ago and they just now release the information because of DNA tests.

Another thing that is odd is that all of these people gathered in just a short time to celebrate which is fine. However, there was also a bit of a delay in the Presidents speech which during that time all these crowds gathered. Would it be foolish to consider the possibility that to increase his (Obama) popularity rating, there were some steps taken to gather all these people to make him look like a hero?

I'd hate to think that the government had anything foul to do with this, but there are multiple questions that are swirling around this that are more important than if he should of died or not.

I don't know, maybe I'm looking too much into it and need to shut up. It just seems like there are so many questions that should be answered.
 
His burial at sea was supposed to be so fast because of his religion, he must be buried within 24 hours, at sea because it was reckoned no country would take his body or it would be dug up and stolen.

I doubt very much that Osama had run or been the head of Al Qaeda for a very long time so that means someone else is running the show which makes this terrorist organisation just as dangerous now as before, possibly more so now as they WILL be seeking retribution.

Another thing that astounds me is the fact that the Pakistani government did not even know that the raid was taking place, US troops turn up in another country and kill people without permission, could you imagine the stink raised if someone did this to the USA?

I just hate how the USA think they are the world police?

I'm sure there will be many many more questions and dodgy answers yet to come. :roll:
 
MissTake said:
I just hate how the USA think they are the world police?
I completely agree. At least your government stopped being Bush's lapdog after you got rid of Blair (as far as I know). We need to stop starting these pointless wars and spending trillions of dollars that could better be used to feed the starving people in our countries.

Nobody (in the USA) has ever considered the fact that if the USA stopped being so imperialistic, then the terrorists wouldn't have any reason to attack us anymore.
 
I don't think really understand the severity of what Obama has said, that is of course if he has lied. You do realize lieing would pretty much be a death sentence, as he would be known as the biggest scumbag and would probably be targeted by the masses.
 
ThePimpedMistletoe said:
I don't think really understand the severity of what Obama has said, that is of course if he has lied. You do realize lieing would pretty much be a death sentence, as he would be known as the biggest scumbag and would probably be targeted by the masses.
Bush lied, and people don't remember him as the biggest scumbag. He gets to quietly enjoy his retirement despite all the times he lied to the American people.

Anathema said:
dan213 said:
Anathema said:
I don't think they should have shot him and killed him on sight. What if they had gotten the wrong guy? And no matter what someone does I do not believe that they should be killed like that. We should have just captured him and put him in a jail. In the end we did the same thing that he did; kill.

Disagree 110%

For one, he was involved in a firefight which means he exchanged fire with the special forces putting them in harms way. The USA special forces also killed a wanted man that killed hundreds of thousands of people, wiping him off the map is no where near "the same". The wanted poster also said "Dead or Alive" which means exactly what it states.
In the end, he killed, we killed. Just because he killed people for no reason, we have to kill him for no reason? That's not right. All killing is the same. Also, had we put him in jail, perhaps he could have possibly realized what he did was wrong. It wouldn't make anything better, but it would help him individually.
Let's also not forget about all the civilians we've murdered in countries around the world on a daily basis. The Americans are the real terrorists.
 
Snobothehobo said:
ThePimpedMistletoe said:
I don't think really understand the severity of what Obama has said, that is of course if he has lied. You do realize lieing would pretty much be a death sentence, as he would be known as the biggest scumbag and would probably be targeted by the masses.
Bush lied, and people don't remember him as the biggest scumbag. He gets to quietly enjoy his retirement despite all the times he lied to the American people.

I'm not American, and don't know much about American politics, but I'm sure this lie would make him a prime target, as it's the matter of knowing the man that ordered murder of thousands is now dead. If Obama drew them into a fake sense of security, the sh*t will hit the fan, big time.
 
Sayf Udeen said:
Wow. the death of human, even if he was the enemy, lowering yourself to celebrating a death is disgusting.

Of course they killed him, he has no right to a fair trial? Even the most clearly guilty in the USA have that right at their disposal...

Now, for the body. It should be rightfully returned for burial once confirmed. Will it be? Well, with the USA, you never know. They have their own set of morals, and rule by it.

I'm not defending Osama, or the actions he has been involved in. They were awful, free of doubt! When I am scrutinising is the animalistic nature of the 'good guys' on their high horse, throwing their own values out the window.
1) They asked him to surrender, but he refused and it turned into a firefight
2) They buried it at sea, the bin Ladens had already disowned Osama
3) So apparently killing someone who murdered 3,000+ innocent people in one day is animalistic. Great morals :roll:
 
Snobothehobo said:
The Americans are the real terrorists.

:lol:

We are terrorists until America's help is needed to clean up some other countries mess, than we are teddy bears.
 
GamingOn said:
Good job Anathema but we killed one he killed hundreds with his actions. Well we killed more then one but we still killed him he killed MORE. 😀 So normally I am on your side he should of been brought-en to jail so we could deal with him in the states but he would of been a lifer anyhow and people hate terrorists so he could of been in big trouble in jail! 😀 Either way glad hes no longer terrorizing the world. 😀

He killed hundreds?
No, he killed thousands.
Approximately 3,000 people died in 9/11 alone.
 
Excerpt taken from Sky News....
Osama bin Laden was not armed when he was shot dead by US special forces, a White House spokesman has revealed.

"There was concern bin Laden would oppose the capture operation and indeed, he did resist," he said.

Reporters were later briefed that the fugitive terrorist "appeared as if he was reaching for a weapon".

Mr Carney said bin Laden's wife tried to rush the commandos as they stormed into the room where her husband was - dispelling speculation he used her as a human shield.

She was shot in the leg, but not killed.

"Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed," he added.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... d_Will_Not
 
The SEALs made the right call, Osama was a very dangerous man and if they thought he was going for a weapon shooting him was the right choice.
 
Yah, One down and many more to go. This still doesn't solve the problem because their is always someone out their to replace him that we don't about yet. I hope not.
 
dan213 said:
Snobothehobo said:
The Americans are the real terrorists.

:lol:

We are terrorists until America's help is needed to clean up some other countries mess, than we are teddy bears.
You mean the messes we cause in the first place many years before we notice them?
 
Pvcomputers said:
Yah, One down and many more to go. This still doesn't solve the problem because their is always someone out their to replace him that we don't about yet. I hope not.
Nobody said it was going to solve the problem (as a whole).. What it did was solve some, create some new ones.. But in the end, it was worth it.

Of course you have those extreme human rights type people (who would /for example/ rent a 5 star hotel room for the man who rapes and kills their entire family.. while he waits for his court date) who think he should have been spared, but that is to be expected.
 
I don't know if you guys are getting the same coverage in the states but over here there is some outrage as it appears the story has been changed significantly? Everything we were lead to believe in the beginning about the raid has now been altered to a totally different version.
This does not make Obama look good! People are questioning the moral, ethical and legal way in which it's been done and the answers are now being altered to suit the situation that the US government now find themselves in.
I think initially Obama expected everyone to just whoop with joy and ask no questions but now that's backfired and when the finer details have been revealed there are awkward questions they just can't dodge.
 
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