Why are you sick of new promotion forums ?
- Thread starter Dylan
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The Social Network Promotion Service. I haven't seen it in any forum.Naiwen said:
It offers to post facebook link/youtube link/twitter/myspace to the top of my forum in icons (there are my links for the moment since no one requested it yet) I also am trying to make some new services like sending traffic or Activity Services, Staff Services....actually I am going to write some ideas down and get the best of them and add them as services on my forum.
I have noticed one thing...
The original poster is sick of promotion forums!
Note the date of the OP. 18 Jun 2010.
I did a search on the threads they made. I found this, a thread made from the same person on 13 Aug 2010. Low and behold, they made a promotion forum less then 2 months later. Guess what??? Less then 2 months later of bumping his thread almost everyday. The forum died. 3 pages of posts, 10 post by other users, the other 33 by the OP. Isn't that some ironic stuff??
Just thought I would point that out.
The original poster is sick of promotion forums!
Note the date of the OP. 18 Jun 2010.
I did a search on the threads they made. I found this, a thread made from the same person on 13 Aug 2010. Low and behold, they made a promotion forum less then 2 months later. Guess what??? Less then 2 months later of bumping his thread almost everyday. The forum died. 3 pages of posts, 10 post by other users, the other 33 by the OP. Isn't that some ironic stuff??
Just thought I would point that out.
Well, he could have moved it now, the url doesn't work and the last comment mention it redirects. Dylan may have tried to make a good promotion forums, gave up and changed into another type of project.
Still funny, I guess.
Still funny, I guess.
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tronik said:
It's the same circle of members on every forum so exposure to new people is almost unheard of.
Shole said:
Usually because you'd find these type of things in exchange type forums. So no, not unique at all.
In exchanges you exchange Social Network links, likes and shout outs, but Shole is offering it as a service, meaning I can do it at any time provided fulfill the rquirements. At most, I've seen services that offer space pointing to your website, but not to the network sites related to it. It may not be an "OMG that is a awesome-never-heard-revolutionary service in itself, but it is a clever twist and it is fair to recognize that instead of simpy shunning it down.
IAAM Radio
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We offer the same thing have for nearly 6 months now it's called an exchanger script and can be a useful tool. You get likes, looks, +1 etc. I think the above is taking it one step further though and that may be a neat twist to a script that has been around for sometime.
All and all, good job keep at it, promo boards are a dime a dozen so you are in a very tight game. As long as you are enjoying it, so what right 🙂
All and all, good job keep at it, promo boards are a dime a dozen so you are in a very tight game. As long as you are enjoying it, so what right 🙂
I honestly done have a problem with new promotion forums but if they're going to go far in the long run they need proper hosting and a TLD at the very least. I suggest they wait and recruit a staff team before they open up their forum with every single service set to offline as I don't see the point as you're clearly not ready to be advertised. Aswell as opening an empty promotion forum can't go too well unless you fill it with posts quickly, I would say in 24-48 hours if you want to get off to a good start statistics wise. 🙂
Promotion forums in general are fine. The problem comes in when they aren't original and try to copy other promotion forums, more often than not they copy this one, and that gets old. They also try to rely only on members from this board and it's other copy cats. What's the purpose of leaving an established forum to join one that is exactly like it but just newer with a different administrator, and often has shared staff members.
People think promotion forums are EASY, but in reality, I'd argue that they're probably the most difficult to launch successfully and keep going because of the work involved with services, moderating and making sure requirements are met, spam and short posts are more common here since people are more likely to spam to get forum cash to buy services, etc. not to mention admin content is so regurgitated that nothing even in that area, the discussions, is original anymore.
People think promotion forums are EASY, but in reality, I'd argue that they're probably the most difficult to launch successfully and keep going because of the work involved with services, moderating and making sure requirements are met, spam and short posts are more common here since people are more likely to spam to get forum cash to buy services, etc. not to mention admin content is so regurgitated that nothing even in that area, the discussions, is original anymore.
I'm only really sick of promotion sites that pop up then their owners close them down (or they become ghost towns) within a few months. If that's all the life they've got then what's the point of joining? I'd also be extremely skeptical about joining a forum if I knew that an admin who let that happen to their forum was running it.
Also, I don't like when promotion sites are just carbon copies of FP. I've seen numerous people who will use phpBB then copy FP's layout, services, etc... And then have the gall to advertise here and attempt to attract members from here.
And I just avoid them for pure fact that they're just knockoffs of the real thing. They'll never be as good or as popular because they're only cheap imitations made by people who only want a quick success without any work.
And even other sites that aren't so much direct copies but spiritual ones (they use different software, look a bit different, but offer the same services) still aren't much better off than full copies. They won't survive long unless they differentiate themselves and look for ways to expand or improve their services.
As for "proper" hosting and TLD... I've seen more promotion sites use paid hosting and TLDs fold (especially within the first 3 months) than any free hosted site. Using paid services does not mean your forum will succeed by any stretch. Nor does it guarantee your site will be around longer. To think that is pure arrogance and foolishness. Simply paying does not automatically make something better. And this attitude that paid is the only way to have a site really needs to find a corner and die. (And we'll all be better off for it.)
In terms of statistics, having a lot of numbers only tells part of a story. Having 1000 posts before you open might be great, but if 75% of them are garbage, low quality, spam-like crap then it actually looks worse for your forum. (On account that you permit that sort of nonsense for one thing, plus people looking to use your services may fear that's what you'll do to their site too. And that can really hurt your reputation that you're trying to build for your site.)
Also, I don't like when promotion sites are just carbon copies of FP. I've seen numerous people who will use phpBB then copy FP's layout, services, etc... And then have the gall to advertise here and attempt to attract members from here.
And I just avoid them for pure fact that they're just knockoffs of the real thing. They'll never be as good or as popular because they're only cheap imitations made by people who only want a quick success without any work.
And even other sites that aren't so much direct copies but spiritual ones (they use different software, look a bit different, but offer the same services) still aren't much better off than full copies. They won't survive long unless they differentiate themselves and look for ways to expand or improve their services.
As for "proper" hosting and TLD... I've seen more promotion sites use paid hosting and TLDs fold (especially within the first 3 months) than any free hosted site. Using paid services does not mean your forum will succeed by any stretch. Nor does it guarantee your site will be around longer. To think that is pure arrogance and foolishness. Simply paying does not automatically make something better. And this attitude that paid is the only way to have a site really needs to find a corner and die. (And we'll all be better off for it.)
In terms of statistics, having a lot of numbers only tells part of a story. Having 1000 posts before you open might be great, but if 75% of them are garbage, low quality, spam-like crap then it actually looks worse for your forum. (On account that you permit that sort of nonsense for one thing, plus people looking to use your services may fear that's what you'll do to their site too. And that can really hurt your reputation that you're trying to build for your site.)
lucasbytegenius
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I agree with the listed reasons. I however hate new promotion forums because there are way, way too many of them, and I'm against any new forums in an already super-saturated niche. Go for something unique and don't waste your time and money.
As someone else stated already, any niche at this point in the game is going to be super saturated. Some more than others, but there is going to be lots of competition. I do agree that you need to be unique, but you won't be able to find a niche that isn't over done already.lucasbytegenius said:
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I still think under-saturated niches exist, such as specific game forums for example.Geoffrey said:
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But we did...Dylan said:
Bluezone777
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The reason why I am sick of them is because they are all the same. They offer the same services and the same experience overall. They talk about the same stuff and many times do so with the same people as all the rest. The last thing we need is someone to basically copy and paste what has already been discussed to death onto yet again another forum whether this is done intentionally or not does not make a difference. The topic(forum discussion) is static hence nothing changes. What will be said about the sort of topics discussed on these advertising boards will not be any different when discussed on any of the other advertising forums.
If you are going to open a new forum of any kind then it needs to be different from the rest and offer an unique experience that the others aren't delivering. If this isn't going to describe your new board then I am most certain it will wind up as yet again another dead and forgotten board.
Don't we have enough of those already?
If you are going to open a new forum of any kind then it needs to be different from the rest and offer an unique experience that the others aren't delivering. If this isn't going to describe your new board then I am most certain it will wind up as yet again another dead and forgotten board.
Don't we have enough of those already?
So many ignorant people here..
It's not about a domain, what forum host you use, what forum software you use, or anything of the sort. Heck it's not even about what you copy and what you don't copy, it's about how you run YOUR forum.
That's basically what everyone needs to remember.. it's YOUR forum NOT anyone elses.. If you want to run your forum like you're copying another forum, than so be it and vica versa.
The point of forums is obviously to be successful, but there's a difference between being successful and being compliant.
Differences:
Successful - doing your own thing, running your forum how you want it to be ran, thus feeling successful, even if you have 2 members, your forum is still successful.
Compliant - doing what everyone else wants you to do, running your forum based on other's opinions. You might have 1 million posts and 1 million members, but you're not successful. Sure your numbers might be huge, but you're not running your own forum, you're running someone elses.
I had an absolute ball when I ran Promotion Source. Yeah it wasn't the most successful promotion forum based on the statistics, but I ran it how I wanted to run it, so it was successful to me, and that's why I ran it in the first place.
It's not about a domain, what forum host you use, what forum software you use, or anything of the sort. Heck it's not even about what you copy and what you don't copy, it's about how you run YOUR forum.
That's basically what everyone needs to remember.. it's YOUR forum NOT anyone elses.. If you want to run your forum like you're copying another forum, than so be it and vica versa.
The point of forums is obviously to be successful, but there's a difference between being successful and being compliant.
Differences:
Successful - doing your own thing, running your forum how you want it to be ran, thus feeling successful, even if you have 2 members, your forum is still successful.
Compliant - doing what everyone else wants you to do, running your forum based on other's opinions. You might have 1 million posts and 1 million members, but you're not successful. Sure your numbers might be huge, but you're not running your own forum, you're running someone elses.
I had an absolute ball when I ran Promotion Source. Yeah it wasn't the most successful promotion forum based on the statistics, but I ran it how I wanted to run it, so it was successful to me, and that's why I ran it in the first place.
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Well you should certainly follow your dreams and start forums you want to start, but statistically, the niches are so saturated that new promotion, webmaster, tech, gaming, and general discussion forums generally do not do well since there's so many out there. I wish I had known this before I started EnigmaBoard, but I still stuck with my forum, I'll say that. Even today after two years of promoting, promoting, promoting, it's still not very active.
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