Your views on this are needed

[amaan]

I really dont think Hawk Host would have a problem with FP users promoting jailbreaking sites or modding sites for that matter as they already allow the hosting of adult websites as long as you aren't stealing material that isn't yours. I can imagine their views on jailbreaking will be pretty leniant.<br /><br />-- 10 Jun 2011, 21:52 --<br /><br />Also, if it wasn't for hacks or mods, many forum plugins that we all use wouldn't be around. Modding is generally accepted on all forums and are often categorized as hacks. If it wasn't for me modding some scripts on my sites they wouldnt have had functionality that they had

 

[MissTake]

With reference to modding and hacks we mean more specifically the modification of the actual Xbox or PS3 console to enable the playing of copy/illegally downloaded games and the hacking of accounts to get more microsoft points or gold for Runescape etc?

 

[Gimgak]

Modding a console is the same as jailbreaking it. While yes illegal things can be done with it homebrew is a good reason for a lot of people. This isn't as viable when talking about the 360 when Microsoft essentially supports homebrew but it applies to the PS3, oh and Linux for that console 😛.

 

[Deleted member 4320]

:lol: Fastest turnaround I've ever seen there Dan! :biggrin:

I know right! :O 😀

Well on one hand yes we should allow because FP can't be responsible for everyone and in a way no because it would encourage people to be bad sports, I have no idea...

 

[ACFpromo]

I would say keep it as it is because we don't want illegal things being advertised because there will be more people doing it.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

The fact remains that none of these four are illegal themselves. They can just be used to do illegal things. That's like banning a glassblowing forum because you can make bongs with glassblowing techniques.

 

[Kevin X Dragon]

I think that all four should be allowed. The giant corporations that make these video games can afford to take legal action as necessary. FP shouldn't be responsible for policing these things for them. In fact, I would rather see these companies take a little more responsibility for themselves. They shouldn't expect other people to do it for them. After all, they all lobby for conservative politicans who emphasize "personal responsibility" above all else (LOLOLOLOL). These video game companies can take a little "personal responsibility" and police these things themselves. There are also legitimate uses for all four of these things.

:great:

If Hawk Host does not have a problem with you guys letting people advertise their sites that talks about modding jail breaking, R4/Wood, cheat's/hacks, etc then why block it. Plus, if any video gaming company has problem with a gaming site promoted here they will most likely try to take down that site, not FP.

 

[Gimgak]

The fact remains that none of these four are illegal themselves. They can just be used to do illegal things. That's like banning a glassblowing forum because you can make bongs with glassblowing techniques.

Which by the way I saw a post on WHT where a hawkhost representative said they have no problems that deal with things like that.

 

[amaan]

The fact remains that none of these four are illegal themselves. They can just be used to do illegal things. That's like banning a glassblowing forum because you can make bongs with glassblowing techniques.

Which by the way I saw a post on WHT where a hawkhost representative said they have no problems that deal with things like that.

Hawkhost even allows porn; I really don't think it would be an issue to FP as its not like FP will be hosting these sites. I'd love to advertise my homebrew/jailbreaking site on here

 

[NBK*Twitch]

The fact remains that none of these four are illegal themselves. They can just be used to do illegal things. That's like banning a glassblowing forum because you can make bongs with glassblowing techniques.

Well making a bong is not illegal either 😛. Its what you can smoke through it,thats illegal.(and thats only in certain areas depending on the smokable)

 

[Gimgak]

The fact remains that none of these four are illegal themselves. They can just be used to do illegal things. That's like banning a glassblowing forum because you can make bongs with glassblowing techniques.

Well making a bong is not illegal either 😛. Its what you can smoke through it,thats illegal.(and thats only in certain areas depending on the smokable)

Making a bong is illegal, making a water pipe however is perfectly fine, unless you're Tommy Chong.

But yeah FP should allow the sites, a lot of these activities are just grey, not illegal.

 

[Branden]

I honestly use cheat codes sometimes but I do not hack. Well, I used to do modding. That is not the point here though.

I honestly think that we should allow it as long as it is not very illegal and does not contain illegal softwares.

As modding is only a form of cheating (like cheat codes) it should be allowed.

 

[MissTake]

Soft Modding an Xbox/Wii is bypassing the data inside a Microsoft/Nintendo machine to enable it to play pirate copies of games that can be downloaded from warez, filesharing sites though?

 

[Gimgak]

Yeah basically. Still for the nintendo unlocking the machine is actually useful since they don't have homebrew. It's not really an argument when it comes to microsoft though since they provide a platform for indie/homebrew on their console.

**http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel That's for the Wii, basically games created by individuals or other programs that are legal, just not supported by Nintendo. Since a device like the wii is locked against unauthorized software this kind of stuff needs to run through a jailbroken device.

 

[Grumpy]

So many people do it that why disallow it? While it's forbidden from the games themselves, it's not like FP would get into trouble for having a link to a site which contains game cheats/MODs. Silly.

 

[Lacey]

I must be absolutely mad to agree with "youknowwho" above me here, but in reality he is correct.

While Modding, Jailbreaking, and R4/wood are against the law I would recommend that Forum Promotion does not allow this type of discussion.

Hacks/cheats/Bots is where I agree with Grumpy. The truth is as far as technology goes it is the rights of the game provider to allow/disallow their program C++ files, python, or whichever method they design the game to lock down its customers to create modifications to give the gamer an edge to win.

On top of this, from my experience with attempting and failing horribly into creating a MMORPG we actually WANT people to cheat, because it stirs the pot of thrill to the game. While some games are hot for a month then forgotten we have kids working for FREE for us to code in their little tricks, sharing them, and bringing conversation and news about our game that we profit from.
Any game designer team can easily shut down the hacks before the end of a cup of coffee but why fight against active customers who are multiplying the popularity of the game.

So it should be allowed in FP if forum Promotion is into following the standards that most forums run under.

 

[Gimgak]

While Modding, Jailbreaking, and R4/wood are against the law I would recommend that Forum Promotion does not allow this type of discussion.

At least jailbreaking is legal in the US and that's where FP is hosted. Pretty sure it would just be up to Fergal since he's the owner and still has to follow the laws of his own country, and the US's for the site.

 

[Lacey]

I would think that it really has nothing to do with the law. Its just a matter of what type of members do you want to attract.

 

[Gimgak]

What does someone using linux or other cool things with their device have to do with them? I'm not saying allow warez boards, but there is nothing wrong with jailbreaking sites that don't link to warez.

 

[MissTake]

This thread has been set up at Fergal's request so we can judge your thoughts and opinions on the matter, there have been some debates on how far FP should go with regards to these issues, especially botting for Runescape. 😉