Pirate Party UK is Official
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Great leaders? Well, if they know more about the technology than the older leaders, and they learned the same things the older leaders learned in college courses (maybe more these days) and everything else, there is no difference. The only card you could play would be lack of experience, which will take place for any new person, so it's voided. Sorry mate, but they are armed with the knowledge from the start to not only be great leaders, but also to listen to the people, something that our current leaders aren't extremely good at.
Great leaders? Well, if they know more about the technology than the older leaders, and they learned the same things the older leaders learned in college courses (maybe more these days) and everything else, there is no difference. The only card you could play would be lack of experience, which will take place for any new person, so it's voided. Sorry mate, but they are armed with the knowledge from the start to not only be great leaders, but also to listen to the people, something that our current leaders aren't extremely good at.
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Put it this way, people who's partys main concern is making it legal to steal software aren't going to be leading any country. Things like the economy, social issues, national defense, take a backseat to making stealing things on the Internet legal aren't going to have a chance in any election in a major power nation.
Sir, you miss the point. You don't think that the Pirate Party is strictly Internet based reform, and that if a leader is elected he will only worry about that and will leave the rest of the world to burn do you? Let me assure you, as they get more members and organize better, they will get all that figured out. Every party needs a kickoff subject, something to make them known, they have found theirs.Irviding said:
If you seriously feel this is going to kick off then you dont know the British system. I highly doubt they will get anywhere, I think with the way things are going we are more likely to get UKIP into power. And if something like this became serious i would start voting for the Monster Raving Looney Party, as this Pirate Party would be the sister. You fight to end this stupid battle, but what i care about most is seeing things done in the real world. I want to see crime % reduced, and proper handling of our defence forces. I do not give a crap about some small pirating law. This is why i will not be voting for them at the next General Election, (yes i can vote at 18).
I can honestly say I know very little about the British system, i'm from the USA and all I know i've learned from reading online. You could be 100% correct, that non-reform-things-are-fine attitude may be why the people left to start the USA back in the day, who am I to judge. However know this, change happens. There is no stopping it, that cannot be argued. You may be in that 39% that don't have 8,000 illegal songs on your computer, and you may welcome the government reading your text messages to make you "safer", but it's not really about you, it's about the majority.
As I stated before, each party has to have that "thing" that draws attention to them. Once they get members and grow, they can start to work on the whole plan and sort out the other stuff. It's pretty clear that they won't take any office with *just* pirate views, they will have to take sides on other important matters as well. Right now they are small, they are getting attention, it's later on that the details unfold.
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You don't know the British system well granted, but I don't think you know your own American system well either.
Either Democrats or Republicans have held congressional majority and the Presidency since the 1800's. That's not going to change.
The fact is it doesn't matter if you think it's too expensive for a song. You're stealing someone elses hard work. Regardless of whether or not you think Photoshop is overpriced ( I do as well ) that doesn't give you the right to just steal it.
And making it legal to steal it is totally bogus. Artists will make no money, movies will no longer be of any quality, software will be of no good quality, etc.
Either Democrats or Republicans have held congressional majority and the Presidency since the 1800's. That's not going to change.
The fact is it doesn't matter if you think it's too expensive for a song. You're stealing someone elses hard work. Regardless of whether or not you think Photoshop is overpriced ( I do as well ) that doesn't give you the right to just steal it.
And making it legal to steal it is totally bogus. Artists will make no money, movies will no longer be of any quality, software will be of no good quality, etc.
Do you seriously think that Democrats or Republicans will hold power forever? That's like saying the same computer will last forever. When the world around it changes, so does the computer. It's the same way, sure they've help power for say 200 years, how long was Great Britain / England / the UK held by a Royal ruling family? Change happens, and with Obama being elected and his motto being "Change" it's pretty clear that's what the people are after.Irviding said:
It may not matter if I think it's too much for a song, what matter is the buyers. Guess what, the buyers are not buying, they are downloading. That makes a statement, and the industry has figured that out. It does NOT hurt the artists, there are even theories to suggest that it has boosted sales, there are many iStore developers for the iTouch and iPhone that will tell you that piracy has boosted their sales. Instead of saying no, be open to new ideas for once mate, the old ideals are getting... well... old 😉
If Open Source makes things bogus, kindly tell that to GIMP, Wikipedia, and all Linux Developers. I'm sure some of them will love to debate for you with hours over that, they usually do.
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Yes. I do. Understand American politics. Each party is different. IE- Religious tend to go Republican, those who want civil liberties and social justice go Democrat. Anti war= Democrat Pro War = Republican. Low government spending = Republican High spending = Democratℓєσ gнσѕт said:
It's not going to change. There's not going to be some US Pirate Party leading the united states anytime soon. Certainly not in my life, your life, my childrens life, or my grandchildrens live.
I'm very open for new ideas. If you knew me better, you'd know how much of a politically progressive person I am. That said, I don't believe in allowing people to steal over the Internet. The quality of movies and songs will go to sh*t and all this is going to do is help a bunch of kids download crap on the Internet and not pay for it.
I don't care about WikiPedia. They have extreme piracy and copyright policies, if you would actually read their TOS, they flip out at any type of copyright or piracy violations. Wikipedia is an information site, not a site to download free movie and torrent.
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Van1lla ™ said:
What's that got to do with copyright laws? silly person. Spam-ahoy? :lol:
@Irviding
Okay then, you are entitled to your thoughts about that, I just have different ones. I see change coming, I guess you don't. As for the Wikipedia part, you missed my point. I was speaking about open source software, nothing related to copyrights at all actually. By moving to completely open source there wouldn't be a need to pirate anymore. You don't need to use a voided copy of the Wikipedia script, it's open source. However you may need to use a voided IPB script. That was my point.
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If you look for different ways of paying the ticket price, as the pirate party has found different working models to still pay the artists, i'm sure you can get that ticket. Maybe you can engage in a student exchange program, or ask local business to sponsor your trip. My girlfriend's family had an exchange student from Austria come stay with them, he was sponsored by a local business 😉
Okay then, you are entitled to your thoughts about that, I just have different ones. I see change coming, I guess you don't. As for the Wikipedia part, you missed my point. I was speaking about open source software, nothing related to copyrights at all actually. By moving to completely open source there wouldn't be a need to pirate anymore. You don't need to use a voided copy of the Wikipedia script, it's open source. However you may need to use a voided IPB script. That was my point.
@Van1lla ™
If you look for different ways of paying the ticket price, as the pirate party has found different working models to still pay the artists, i'm sure you can get that ticket. Maybe you can engage in a student exchange program, or ask local business to sponsor your trip. My girlfriend's family had an exchange student from Austria come stay with them, he was sponsored by a local business 😉
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I don't need to use anything voided because I pay for things when I want them, I don't download illegal software.ℓєσ gнσѕт said:
Again, missing the point. Let me make this as clear as possible;Irviding said:
People complain about piracy. IPB doesn't like people using their voided scripts. Wikipedia however doesn't need to worry about piracy, neither does phpBB. Both of these softwares are huge, and the developers are making money off them no different than IPB. At some point, if IPB wants to compete with the number of phpBB users, their only choice is to go open source. The marketplace is changing, open source software is taking over.
My point is, piracy is forcing a move to open source software, the companies must change as well or else they do lose out on both money and users. When times change, so do the products.
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IPB is a lot more quality than phpbb is. It's not going to be free and I hope it never becomes free because I don't want some sh*t software.ℓєσ gнσѕт said:
So what you're really saying is that Open Source software is shit? Honestly mate you could have just said that from the start, now I won't bother to waste any more time on you, it's clear that you'll never be a Linux user, you'll never add a "Wiki" page to your site, you'll never have a forum powered by phpBB, you'll never create a graphic with GIMP, nor will you ever be involved in any project that is community driven and benefits everyone involved..
Sorry for wasting your time.
Sorry for wasting your time.
Sharing is caring. Very true 😛
It was also the saying of a huge board I was on. I quit the warez scene.
I really think it shouldn't matter if people download music for free. The people who should be punished are the people who have uploaded it. People who download it are just technically "viewing" or downloading files that are already available on the internet.
It was also the saying of a huge board I was on. I quit the warez scene.
I really think it shouldn't matter if people download music for free. The people who should be punished are the people who have uploaded it. People who download it are just technically "viewing" or downloading files that are already available on the internet.
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