Pirate Party UK is Official

[katy perry is hot]

Yes, but they won't have the premiership nor will they have a majority in parliament.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Well, teenagers are ignorant as to the fact that quality of movies and other media ( not songs ) will go poor.

Today a Swedish Court ordered the ISP that hosted the connection for The Pirate Bay to disconnect them or face charges of up to $70,000 (USD). The ISP complied, within 3 hours the DNS updated on the OpenDNS network and the site is expected to be completely back online by tomorrow morning. I just want to say, they are gods. The Pirate Bay is the only site to ever stand up in front of the court of law and put up an amazing fight. They have shown that the The Pirate Bay will never die, because (as my signature states), it's not a site, it's the cause of well over 100 million people, it's what we live for, it's our freedom. If it weren't for TPB standing up and fighting for us, our freedom of speech rights would even be under pressure by now. They told us for years to decentralize, but until they did the whole "selling" out deal we hadn't listened. Now, assuming this deal goes through, they will had earned $7.8 million to support the pirate cause. If they end up going to jail then they will go as heroes, because even if you didn't directly support the pirate cause, you have to respect them for standing up for what they believed in when no one else would, they are gods.

You have yet to explain how people are able to give away their music for free, give away free movies, and other "intellectual" property, and yet some can't. I recently released my TorPic WordPress theme that did take some serious work on my end. I decided not to sell it, there's no need for me to. I much rather people who want to use it just use it. I know spyka usually charges money for his themes. So the real question is, assuming spyka made his because he loved to do it and not just for money, would he keep doing it after the laws were changed and he had to give them away free? If the answer is probably, then you see why the system needs to be changed.

 

[katy perry is hot]

The Pirate Bay itself will never die, neither in spirit or in data. ... Why? Because TPB isn't a site, it's our generation, it's our cause, and i'm personally willing to DIE for it before i'd give in.

Bit over dramatic.

 

[gqgk]

Yes, but they won't have the premiership nor will they have a majority in parliament.

you show an extreme lack of knowledge of politics, let alone politics in the UK. they dont need either of those to accomplish what they need. as soon as piracy is legal, the party will cease to exist anymore. thats the point

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

The Pirate Bay itself will never die, neither in spirit or in data. ... Why? Because TPB isn't a site, it's our generation, it's our cause, and i'm personally willing to DIE for it before i'd give in.

Bit over dramatic.

Not really. You know I fight for what I believe correct, and I swear on anything you wish that I would. Right now in my life there honestly isn't much that matters, this issue is one of those things. If it really came down for it, i'd be one of the ones that fought with everything I had to support the cause. Even right now i'm trying to think of what I can do to actually help, creating a torrent site really won't do much, and seeding with my connection will hurt more then help. School just started up again, and in CIT we are being given a chance to make a "company" and compete world wide (if we win we go to Korea for the finials), I was thinking of creating a better model of a copyrightless system for mine, or maybe even a better distribution method (P4P anyone?). We'll have almost unlimited supplies of whatever for it, so anything is within our ability (last year they created a management system called "Learn" that controls general school setup, it is now being used nationally).

 

[MisterPeaBody]

I'm English ( I grew up there, i'm 22 now and live in the US ) and I think neither you or Irviding have a good idea how our system is, and gqgk, attacking his knowledge of politics is crazy when you don't know about our system at all. You're both wrong, attack your own before you attack his.

The adults in England ( including myself ) do not support piracy. Leog, when you grow up, and understand business, you won't support it either. It's just common sense. Business will close, people will lose their jobs. Another depression can start if piracy becomes legal. So keep running around while you're a child, enjoy yourself, but when you grow up, you'll get some sense in your head.

 

[gqgk]

actually i know it perfectly. i've studied it about as much as i've studied the US political system. i've taken hours of classes on political science and many other things on that. so saying i know nothing on it is funny. he's never even read about why the UK system supports smaller parties based on set-up and why the US will never have a small party be supported at all

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Leog, when you grow up, and understand business, you won't support it either. It's just common sense. Business will close, people will lose their jobs. Another depression can start if piracy becomes legal. So keep running around while you're a child, enjoy yourself, but when you grow up, you'll get some sense in your head.

Business is the field I wish to go into as my career, i've studied the models, don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about. Hollywood claimed the VHS would kill their sales, they claimed the DVD would shut them down, this is no different. There IS money to be made when giving the songs away free, you just have to think outside the box to get there, which is why the industry will indeed fall on it's ass at some point no matter what happens. Here are the choices we have;

1) Leaving everything alone, change no laws and embrace nothing. In 10 years the industry will have shut down completely due to "loss of profits" - the free artists will now be making money off donations and advertisements in which the old artists were. As the world gets more focused around the web, the Internet stars will be more recognized, and marketers would rather have the more famous people promoting their product.

2) We enforce strciter copyright laws, which can *only* lead to stricter privacy laws (as in, they have more power into our private lives). This will occur because you can stop piracy only when the people are caught, and they fail at catching most of the time now. As i'm sure you're aware, privacy is also a big issue right now, and if people hear that they are losing it because of "just a bunch of teenage pirates" you don't think they'll revolt? When privacy gets violated, so do rights, and then governments crumble. Enforcing stricter laws will only result in the downfall of our entire global government systems.

3) The Industry embraces the new technology finally and make sure they keep making a profit as they always have. If they can keep control of who is considered "famous" or "well known" to the general people, then marketers will still be willing to pay millions to have them endorse their products. The Industry is full of smart people, surely they can come up with other new ideas to make money. At this point the world will keep spinning a sit is, nothing will really change dramatically.

Choice is yours mate.

 

[gqgk]

i like how he assumes we know nothing

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

i like how he assumes we know nothing

I'll be the first to admit I know very little on 90% of subjects, however business, piracy systems, and legal conflicts within the pirate community are a few things that I study to the "nerd" levels 😉

'Tis meh thang.

 

[gqgk]

i like how he assumes we know nothing

I'll be the first to admit I know very little on 90% of subjects, however business, piracy systems, and legal conflicts within the pirate community are a few things that I study to the "nerd" levels 😉

'Tis meh thang.

and i know more abut politics than most people ever will. i've been studying it for ages and studied a lot of it in college already. i can point out every pro and con of every political system that exists now or ever has. so making your argument, "when you learn about it you'll understand," just means you have no other facts to use

 

[katy perry is hot]

You're a year older than me, I doubt you know that much more about politics than I do.

That said, can I ask quick are you a neo conservative or a paleo conservative?

 

[gqgk]

You're a year older than me, I doubt you know that much more about politics than I do.

That said, can I ask quick are you a neo conservative or a paleo conservative?

i'm whatever i feel is correct. and actually wrong. i've been going to college for two years already. and i've specialized those extra years in politics. on top of that i've been taking AP government classes since my freshman. if you really want to say you're even remotely close to me i'll laugh

 

[katy perry is hot]

You're 18 years and you've been to college for 2 years?

I take AP government classes too, by the way 🙂

 

[Callum93]

IMO, not the best combination.

 

[gqgk]

You're 18 years and you've been to college for 2 years?

I take AP government classes too, by the way 🙂

yep. for 2 years i have. and wanna know something? it was paid for by tax payers. want to know something else? 10% of the population pays 90% of the taxes. how fair is that? not at all, just because i work hard and make more than someone doesnt mean i should pay more for it. just because i can afford it if you stole all the money out of my wallet, does that make it right?

how many AP classes have you taken? how many credit hours do you have? because you obviously have no clue how voting in the UK works

hahaha LMAO @ sbfc :rofl:

 

[katy perry is hot]

Please tell me where I was wrong about voting in the UK. Link me specifically what I said wrong, please. If I was at all wrong I'd like to correct myself.