Your views on this are needed

Only comment on this I have is jail breaking things like iphones. Which was ruled in court to be legal,so I think that should be allowed.

Also for just normal cheat codes for games like GTA 4 that should be allowed.

However modding systems and hacking should not be allowed. That is my opinoin on the matter.
 
I am familiar with all those activities but not so much with the legal TOS mumbo jumbo pertaining to what specifically is "legal" and what is not. With that being said I say if what is being posted is not actually "illegal" and cant get us in trouble then I see no harm in allowing it. Just because something is lets say "taboo" but not "illegal" dosnt mean we should'nt allow it.
 
Ryanplex said:
I am familiar with all those activities but not so much with the legal TOS mumbo jumbo pertaining to what specifically is "legal" and what is not. With that being said I say if what is being posted is not actually "illegal" and cant get us in trouble then I see no harm in allowing it. Just because something is lets say "taboo" but not "illegal" dosnt mean we should'nt allow it.
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Just because something isnt illegal doesnt mean we shouldnt allow it. Just like some gold selling sites and such for Runescape got shut down for doing it. If we promote it, FP could potentially get shut down by the JaGex LTD. Which to save all that hassle, would be easier to not allow something that is against a TOS policy as well.
 
Thats what I was trying to say when using the term illegal. If something goes against the TOS or gets us in trouble in any way at all then we should not allow it. If it dosnt then I say why not.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
Well I think that it should be okay if the ROMs/Hacks of these games arent stored locally on the website displaying their links and info. For instance, If I where to run a ROM website, but my users posts links to ROMs hosted on other sites, that's legal, in the US anyway, and cant be issued a DCMA takedown notice.

As for jailbreaking, a recent case has been brought up in the US court system in regards to jailbreaking and ruled that Jailbreaking is actually legal on devices, though the content distributed on jailbroken devices are subject to the same copyright laws as anyone else.

In conclusion I do believe that FP's view on ROM/Hacking/and Jailbreaking sites should be more lenient and tolerated on here. And I'll be honest with you, I dont have any ROM links on some of my sites just so I can promote them here otherwise I'd totally be in support of homebrew and other modification of games on my forums.
 
ChrisG2010 said:
Just because something isnt illegal doesnt mean we shouldnt allow it. Just like some gold selling sites and such for Runescape got shut down for doing it. If we promote it, FP could potentially get shut down by the JaGex LTD. Which to save all that hassle, would be easier to not allow something that is against a TOS policy as well.
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Unless Lieberman gave his internet killswitch to Jagex that could never happen. The worst they could do is ask to remove the thread. They wouldn't bother asking individual sites that have links to gold farming sites though because a lot of those sites spam with xrumer anyway.
 
There is no way Jagex could shut down FP for having users with websites that they promote on here with bots. You definitely can not issue a DCMA takedown for that
 
profx said:
Game hacking- fine within limits
Jailbreaking- No
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jailbreaking is completely legal, at least in the states. What's the problem with it? There are loads of legal apps on Cydia that are pretty cool, dunno why you wouldn't jailbreak a device like the iphone.
 
Gimgak said:
profx said:
Game hacking- fine within limits
Jailbreaking- No
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jailbreaking is completely legal, at least in the states. What's the problem with it? There are loads of legal apps on Cydia that are pretty cool, dunno why you wouldn't jailbreak a device like the iphone.
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So what about Britain? Over here we have a far more tangled set of rules and regulations, thanks to the intervention of the European Union. The relevant EU directive essentially says that breaking "technical protection" (i.e. DRM) on software is fine, as long as you're not doing it for the purposes of infringing copyright (i.e. playing pirated games).

But that's Europe. In the UK, we have to ratify all of these EU directives before they become law, so the British lawmakers transposed the EU directive into British law, in the "Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003". That says essentially the same thing -- that it's okay to break these "technical measures" for interoperability reasons, but not for the purposes of infringing copyright.

The difficult bit comes when you try and interpret "interoperability". I spoke to Andres Guadamuz, a lecturer in IT law at the University of Edinburgh, who pointed out that there haven't been any test cases to set any legal precedent in the UK.

While there have been two cases of a ruling against people selling the tools to hack videogame consoles, these were predicated on the basis that the primary motivation to do so is to play pirated games. A similar, more recent, ruling outlawed so-called "R4 cards" in Britain, which are frequently used to play pirated Nintendo DS games.

But while piracy can be accomplished by jailbreaking an iPhone, the majority of people don't jailbreak for that reason. They jailbreak so they can get access to software created by third parties that Apple hasn't, or won't, put in its own app store. They jailbreak so they get more access to the device's hardware, and use it in different ways. They jailbreak because they don't want Apple's controlling hands on everything that they do on their device.

That's where the interoperability aspect of the law comes in. "The interoperation is between (third party) software and the iPhone's hardware,"
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Excerpt taken from http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... -uk-iphone

It's not yet been decided over here in the UK yet? :shrug:
 
The issue should be presented to this forums host & whatever they say should be the policy.
 
It's not just about jailbreaking though it's about several different issues so we need your input on all aspects please 😉
 
If this forum links to content that is unacceptable by the host, then action should be taken. Otherwise its not really a big deal.
 
Yes, do check this sites! Don't let illegal activity drift into FP
 
I think that all four should be allowed. The giant corporations that make these video games can afford to take legal action as necessary. FP shouldn't be responsible for policing these things for them. In fact, I would rather see these companies take a little more responsibility for themselves. They shouldn't expect other people to do it for them. After all, they all lobby for conservative politicans who emphasize "personal responsibility" above all else (LOLOLOLOL). These video game companies can take a little "personal responsibility" and police these things themselves. There are also legitimate uses for all four of these things.
 
I don't think is should be allowed because at the end of the day the main reason why people shouldn't bot on Runescape, should mod in Halo Matchmaking is because it gives an unfair advantage to other players and makes it harder for those legit players playing properly.

Stopping forums being advertised like that will not only stop it spreading and effectively converting legit players into cheats but will also make it harder for current sites to promote and survive.

Every game I've played, Runescape, Xbox games etc, I haven't ever cheated but there are times when I really want to because it's so unfair. The one thing we must remember too is that if the developers and management of companies such as Jagex, Microsoft and Apple etc don't want us to do that - there's a pretty good reason why...

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After reading through Snobo's post I actually have to agree. I think they need to take more effort to stomp down on cheaters and hackers themselves and we should just let them go by and if they get into issues with the companies legally or whatever then it's there responsibility, not FP's.

On the other hand we can stop the advertisements of these sites fully, they always have to post first for it to then get removed and to be honest it might not be worth the hassle. In the end if the companies find out what someone is doing and take action, that's on there backs, not FP's.
 
Generally: Botting is making an automated script for a game..

My view is that you shall simply see the TOS of the game, and see if they don't allow it or if they do, and according to it you allow the sites or not 🙂

For cheats, cheat sides are allowed because cheats are entered by programmers in the game itself.. In GTA for examples, you enter a cheat and it works because the programmer himself added the cheat there. I mean offline games here of course.

But for hacks, modding, jail breaking and R4, I guess that shall be disallowed..

I hope my opinion helped you, MissTake 🙂
 
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